Dear lists,
if you feel the urge to discuss these matters (and you should!),
please refer to http://discourse.14mmm.org/t/data-standardization-linked-open-data-a-commen…
Thank you in advance for keeping the lists and therefore our mailboxes clean,
Jon
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:33:23 +0200 : Adrien Labaeye <adrienlabaeye(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> fyi
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jack Townsend <jacktownsend.net(a)gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:27 PM
> Subject: 14mmm project and linked data
> To: Adrien Labaeye <adrienlabaeye(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: Paul Mackay <pauljmackay(a)gmail.com>, Amy Guy <amy(a)rhiaro.co.uk>
>
>
> Hi Adrien, have had this in my outbox since Berlin, and not got round to
> finishing off, sorry. Thanks for organising the meeting, was fun,
> inspiring, with interesting topics and people, and a wonderfully Berlin
> venue!
>
> Please do forward some or all of the the below to other 14mmm guys if will
> be useful.
>
> For me, what's most exciting about what your doing, what makes by far the
> biggest contribution is creating an effective *data standard* for
> location-based sustainability resources, with buy-in from lots of people
> and eventually uptake and provision of data in that standard by many
> providers. That is an amazing idea, really powerful. This will enable many
> more providers to publish information and enable lots of other people to do
> important things with it, things that we couldn't even imagine = *serendipitous
> reuse*. This standard can build upon *existing POI standards*, by adding
> sustainability related fields. Here's a recommendation from Paul Mackay
> (CCed), who was also in Berlin, and a London Cleanwebber, and should be in
> a good position to advise also.
>
> http://popoloproject.com/
>
> I think the process that Popolo have used for defining standards is a good
> pragmatic one, doing the minimum to be a very usable spec but reusing as
> much as possible and not having a hugely formal standards defining process.
> Seems like a good direction to consider.
>
>
> Whilst creating a map of maps is a noble end in itself, it's main value,
> for me, is as a catalyst of the data standardisation process.
>
> Data standardisation is a difficult* social process. *Technically it's
> straightforward. You are creating shared rules - akin to the ones that
> govern an information commons. The main contribution of 14mmm can be to
> find some agreement to these difficult questions: what fields are in, which
> are out? What options are available? What do the terms mean? Are they
> intuitive and international, can people without training use them?
>
> Linked data, or some aspect of it, may well be the best medium for this,
> but I don't want to push that too hard, it is still quite early days for
> linked data technologies. The important thing is the *standardisation/ data
> model*, and that is independent of the technology, could also be in JSON,
> or XML. I would though, recommend creating a data model in OWL, the linked
> data ontology language, which is straightforward to use with the Protege
> software, and doesn't commit you to using the rest of the linked data
> suite. Perhaps the best reason to use linked data would be all the*
> reference data *that you would get for free. Having great reference data,
> that is maintained and updated is vital.
>
> Have just had lunch here in London with linked data expert Amy (CCed) who
> came to the Berlin workshop, and she has kindly offered to play with some
> of the data sources to knock together a simple data model and prototype.
>
> Thinking on, here are some ideas for ordered deliverables
>
>
> - Create a *rough draft data model* for location-specific sustainability
> resources.
> - Produce a first draft centralised map with data from *a few* different
> sustainability networks, extracted from APIs, RSS feeds etc.
> - Hold workshops to develop and agree *data standards 1.0*
> - Match data against leading reference datasets, to improve quality and
> linkability.
> - Offer gathered data to world for reuse as* (linked) open data, XML,
> JSON *etc.
> - Produce a centralised map with data from *many* different sustainability
> networks
> - Enrich the data by pulling in lots of related data from across linked
> data world (e.g. Geonames location descriptions, Wikipedia explanations of
> key concepts)
> - Persuade different providers to open up their data and* provide it in
> standardised format*
> - Demonstrate that linked open data is an important resource for
> progressing sustainability (the W3C recommended way to connect diverse
> open datasets to provide requisite interdisciplinary to progress
> sustainability.)
>
>
> Happy to chat about any of this for more details.
>
> Jack
>
> Web, Open Data & Sustainability University of Southampton
> @JackTownsend_ <https://twitter.com/JackTownsend_> jack(a)jacktownsend.net
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Dear lists,
following the events at the Degrowth conference, we have some new material to share; please intervene where appropriate to deliver your specialist commitment to our (de?)growing community.
Pads:
* (english) http://pad.sinnwerkstatt.com/p/14mmm_structure Structure of 14 MMM/transformap.coop process
* (german) https://text.allmende.io/p/Degrowth-followup Nächste Meilensteine 2015
* (german) https://piratenpad.de/p/M4YU5hVvrt Protokoll: Arbeitstreffen nach Mapping-Workshop auf Degrowth Konferenz, Leipzig, 03.09.2014
Due to the current downtime of one of those and the historical outages we observed with the piratepad.net-Pads, please help in condensing a long-term documentation of this process.
For this reason I have added a Wiki and it's first content page to the MMM/TransforMap "cloud" ( http://blog.14mmm.org , http://discourse.14mmm.org )
* https://wiki.14mmm.org/Degrowth_2014/
This page also contains questions from Degrowth's documentation form that I couldn't answer, yet. You are kindly invited to fill it up with the information from the Pads above, too.
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Still, one of the most urgent requests to be able to sufficiently continue with the 'Mapping the Mappings' process is the demand to get in touch with a lot more tech-savvy people to address infrastructure and Linked Open Data questions.
Don't hesitate to set people in contact with me respectively us!
Jon
PS: Due to the availability of http://discourse.14mmm.org and the recent discussions that have been held on the maps(a)list.allmende.io mailing list, I reserve the right to switch the list to emergency moderation if it not used as an announcement list too often.
TAPAs -> There Are Plenty of Alternatives. We will make them visible on
a single map.
We hope to see your there :-)
Please spread the word, that is: the attached document with background
information.
All the best
Silke Helfrich